Science worshipers annoy the shit out of me. Just about the same way overly religious people annoy me. It's like atheists use science as an excuse not to believe in a god of some type when science cannot prove not disprove the god theory. There is an internal atheist debate about whether or not the god question even belongs in science. Most say it doesn't have any place there. I mean we all know religion is bullshit but needless to say nobody really knows whether there is a god or not.

So the atheist always resorts to science as if some man made idea of how things are supposed to be could ever really explain the universe with or without god. Science is great but it's not the end all. Science is just one key on the key ring. Nothing more.

God is not a theory, it barely even qualifies as a [failed] hypothesis.

But any scientific hypothesis stands or falls on its own merits. God falls.

Here is the Merriam Webster Dictionary definition of a theory:


Main Entry:
the·o·ry Listen to the pronunciation of theory
Pronunciation:
\ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural the·o·ries
Etymology:
Late Latin theoria, from Greek theōria, from theōrein
Date:
1592

1: the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2: abstract thought : speculation
3: the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art
4 a: a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action b: an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances -often used in the phrase in theory
5: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena
6 a: a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b: an unproved assumption : conjecture c: a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject

So based on this I would have to say the god question could in fact be a theory, failed or not. But let's say that it isn't a theory just for the sake of argument, in that case it has absolutely no place in science at all what-so-ever and therefore science cannot ever explain the god question. Something doesn't necessarily have to be a theory or a hypothesis to be a valid question. Like I said, science is not the end all.

But science is not attempting to "disprove" god. God(s) are just the attempts of man to explain "why?" before we were able to answer the questions scientifically. There is now no reason to believe silly stories man up by frightened, ignorant, superstitious stone age goatherds sitting around a campfire.

I agree with this but it still doesn't mean that it isn't a valid question. The traditional God of the Bible type of deity is what you are trying to explain away and that's fine but it doesn't do anything for the deeper issue of is there some sort of creative consciousness out there that we humans would consider a "God". I agree that most of what we traditionally attribute to God can be explained as man trying to fill in the blanks before the realization of science. But that only explains it away on a small scale not the bigger picture. I am aware that science is not out to disprove god but there are scientists out there who try to say there is no god because science doesn't allow it. Same thing.

Science answers the same questions as "god" does in that it explains how we came to be here on earth. Except with facts, not made-up stories.

Science actually cannot fully answer how we cme to be here and especially supplies no facts on the matter. But how we came to be here is not the only question people who seek god want answered.

Gods are just anthropic projections onto inanimate forces and objects.

Opinions do us no good in this discussion. That is exactly what I'm talking about.

Don't you realise that "god" is something made up by man as an answer? Science and "god" answer the same question.

I disagree with that. As someone who grew up in a religious home I can tell you that is false. Not many are looking to science to understand true meaning in their personal life. And not many are looking to God to answer how bats communicate with each other or what the average range of human hearing is. Thousands of years ago the ancients would attribute things like rainbows to God but nobody believes that anymore. You do not know for a fact that god is made up by man although we can assume that most things traditionally attributed to him are false (such as rainbows). People have attributed the invention of the internet to Al Gore. Of course this is false but it doesn't mean that Al Gore doesn't exist.

If a universe with god looks identical to one without then god is an unnecessary complication.

But you don't even know what the universe looks like with or without God because you do not know if there is or isn't a God to begin with. Faulty logic in my opinion.