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Ichigo Kurosaki |
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Once again, 'vunche shows his racism. MY despite of Israel is PERSONAL, not ideological. 'Vunche is simply too stupid to understand the concept; no
matter how many times it is explained to him, even using as many one-syllable words as possible.
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Invunche |
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You think think your hate against Jews isn't antisemitism because it's personal? I have never heard that excuse before but then again racists are great
at rationalizing their hate. And what racism is it I'm supposed to have shown here?
You disgust me.
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. - Victor Stenger
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tanaka.theseason |
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Anti-semitism: the term that pre-empts debate. It's a magical word, more powerful than abrahadabra.
I thought atheists didn't believe in magic and superstition? |
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Invunche |
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What does magic and superstition have to do with it, Spencer? I hope you aren't arguing that to use the term one has to believe in Jewish theology.
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. - Victor Stenger
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tanaka.theseason |
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It's a relatively new, coined term, used by Zionists to stifle criticism of their actions. It's, in essence, an illusory term, a wisp of ethereal smoke
that evangelicals and fascists try to grasp at, apathetically.
Do you consider calling Arabs "goat fuckers" anti-Semitic? |
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Invunche |
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Oh it can certainly be used like that but at the same time that's also the exact defense antisemitic people hide behind.
So what would you call someone who hates Jews for being Jews? Do you consider calling Arabs "goat fuckers" anti-Semitic? I'm assuming you are referring to the accusation that I did that? I never did. Anyway I would call that "anti-arab".
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. - Victor Stenger
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tanaka.theseason |
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"Oh it can certainly be used like that but at the same time that's also the exact defense antisemitic people hide behind."
Anti-Zionist or anti-Semitic? "So what would you call someone who hates Jews for being Jews?" Confused. Jewry is made up of different ethnic groups. Is it Judaism that is hated or is it a racial hatred? That needs to be clarified when you (yes you, Invunche) debate a so-called anti-Semite. I'm assuming you are referring to the accusation that I did that? I never did. Anyway I would call that "anti-arab". Arabs don't have Semitic blood in them? |
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Invunche |
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All you are doing, Spencer, is defending an antisemite with semantics. Makes me think you probably sympathize with him, which should come as no surprise since
the modern conspiracy movement has always had strong ties to antisemitism.
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. - Victor Stenger
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tanaka.theseason |
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Once again, you are viewing the world in all its complexities in your narrow brutish prism:
Edomites were incorporated into Jewry: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=45&letter=E&search=edomites Another ethnic group, possibly NOT Semitic: chozars. http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=402&letter=C&search=chozars Askkenazim and Sephardim. Judaism is a belief system, not neccessarily a race. Nethinim: descendants of the Gibeonites, i.e. Canaanites; they were to be slaves forever to the Israelites, and were to never intermarry with them: that changed over time and the Nethinim (according to Ezra and Nehemiah) worked their way up the hierarchy until they ruled supreme by the time of Christ. http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=198&letter=N&search=nethinim
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Invunche |
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Still denying.
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. - Victor Stenger
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tanaka.theseason |
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I see. You think I 100% agree with Ichigo. Many Israelis refuse to serve in the army, and there are many professors, intellectuals and laymen that criticize
their government's treatment of the Palestinians.
The humans rights group, Tselem, documents Israeli army atrocities very well. I gave you a link to Israel Shahak's book, which is less than 150 pages but you prefer apathy to enlightenment: the leaders of the Renaissance would have been disgusted with you, were they alive today.
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Invunche |
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You think you are telling me something I don't know?
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. - Victor Stenger
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Rambo123UK |
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"I tend to think that cricket is the greatest thing that God ever created on earth - certainly greater than sex, although sex isn`t too bad either" Harold Pinter Bible Babble
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tanaka.theseason |
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Invunche wrote:So you know that the Renaissance leaders would be disgusted with you (were they alive)? Well, at least you're not in denial about that.
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Invunche |
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They'd love me.
Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings. - Victor Stenger
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tanaka.theseason |
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They would have regarded you as an absolutist, a holdover of the feudal days. (:
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